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Today on the show, hosts Giles Alderson & Dom Lenoir welcome a familiar face: friend & host of the podcast Phil Hawkins! But today, he’s not interviewing anyone else, no – he’s our guest because his first studio movie, Prancer: A Christmas Tale (2022), starring the Oscar-nominated James Cromwell, has just been released. We’re over the moon. This is a dream come true for Phil and that’s why we had a lot to talk about.

Phil chats about

·      pitching to Universal

·      putting your stamp as a director on

·      making a family film with serious topics

·      working with animals on set

·      using CGI

·      directing the actors

·      mastering “oners”

… and on Patreon, he discusses

·      the editing process

·      showing the first cut to the studio

Phil’s heartwarming film is out now! Do go watch it, write some lovely reviews, and give it a nice rating. It would mean the world to him and us. Thank you! But for now, sit back, relax and listen to our amazing chat with Phil Hawkins.


Ten-year-old Gloria and her recently widowed grandfather Bud befriend a mysterious reindeer when the family gather for Christmas. Bud comes to believe that Prancer may actually be magical, but Gloria fears his theory will send him straight to a retirement home.